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"Bird on a Wire" Episode Nine: Going upstream to find solutions on children's mental health
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"Bird on a Wire" Episode Nine: Going upstream to find solutions on children's mental health

"Bird on a Wire" is a podcast series featuring conversions on hope, civility and action. Hosted by LuAnn Bird.

The Recombobulation Area is a six-time TEN-TIME Milwaukee Press Club award-winning weekly opinion column and online publication written and published by veteran Milwaukee journalist Dan Shafer. Learn more about it here.

Nicole Otto is a mental health counselor who works with children.

For Episode Nine of the “Bird on a Wire” podcast series, Lu Ann Bird is Nicole Otto. Nicole is a mental health counselor who works with children. In this episode, LuAnn and Nicole talked about some of the difficult realities young people face when it comes to challenges with mental health. 

There’s a great quote that they reference that’s actually come up more than once in this podcast series. It’s from Desmond Tutu and the quote is this:

“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in.”

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